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BSP convo black screens after rebuild.
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:59 pm
by nullen
I attempted a BSP conversion a little while ago and the rebuild in H2core was a success. However, when I try playing the map the game freezes with a black screen. Was this a faulty rebuild and should I just try rebuilding it again?
Re: BSP convo black screens after rebuild.
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:24 am
by bumlove
Yeah, it can be tricky with doing conversions. H2C&G can be sketch. Where does it black screen?
It could be a sound issue.
Re: BSP convo black screens after rebuild.
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:34 pm
by nullen
I get the black screen when the game countdown ends and the map loads.
Re: BSP convo black screens after rebuild.
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:54 pm
by CaptainPoopface
I have seen this when the bipd tag is corrupt, when there is no valid place to spawn (e.g., all spawns are inside a solid block of bsp), or the biped you chose is not in the map. Can you try the other biped in your player profile?
Re: BSP convo black screens after rebuild.
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:26 pm
by nullen
CaptainPoopface wrote:...e.g., all spawns are inside a solid block of bsp...
Would the game have a black screen if other objects are in the geometry? I moved all of the player spawns to an area in the bsp.
Re: BSP convo black screens after rebuild.
Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:14 am
by bumlove
No problem with objects but player spawns if even only slightly go through the BSP can cause your problem, the best way to go would be try the conversion again with a different base map.
Re: BSP convo black screens after rebuild.
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:30 am
by DoorM4n
Hey Nullen, I had this problem several times. If it's a black screen then you may want to null all of the environmental sounds, like bumlove said. Also, do keep in mind there are some conversions that won't work, so you may get freezing issues because you are trying to convert an nonconvertible bsp. What bsp are you converting?
Re: BSP convo black screens after rebuild.
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 1:55 pm
by nullen
deltaapproach_01 I think.
Re: BSP convo black screens after rebuild.
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:04 pm
by DoorM4n
Null the sounds. I remember having that problem on that exact bsp. Go to the BSP dependencies and null all lsnd. Do the same in the scnr tag.
Re: BSP convo black screens after rebuild.
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:19 am
by nullen
Alright, I got all the lsnds nulled out and FTP'd the map to my xbox. I'll report back when I try running the map.
edit: Dammit, the map still black screens.
Re: BSP convo black screens after rebuild.
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:07 pm
by bumlove
Ah I had a thought, if the game gets to black screen it means the map is good but some resource is missing, do you play as MC or as a gay dinosaur?
I rememberer delta approach is a MC single player map so if you play as a gay dinosaur this would cause such problems. Having said that delta approach has only been released once. There are some issues with this map.
Oh poopface already asked....

Re: BSP convo black screens after rebuild.
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:52 pm
by Grimdoomer
bumlove wrote:if the game gets to black screen it means the map is good but some resource is missing
That is incorrect, it could mean some resource is missing or corrupt, yes, but it can also mean many, many things. Such as you have corrupt bsp data, runtime debug values are set where they shouldn't be, player spawns could be wedged into the bsp, some meta value could be skewed, etc etc. Having your map black screen basically means the structure is good enough for the game to load it into memory and setup the world. You map can still be far from working.
Re: BSP convo black screens after rebuild.
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:47 pm
by bumlove
Grimdoomer wrote:bumlove wrote:if the game gets to black screen it means the map is good but some resource is missing
That is incorrect,.....Having your map black screen basically means the structure is good enough for the game to load it into memory and setup the world.
That's what I meant.
Re: BSP convo black screens after rebuild.
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:39 am
by DoorM4n
There is probably a patch in the downloads forum here or in the old Halomods archives of exactly what you are wanting. I'm procrastinating a bit right now--and looking at the moment would be taking procrastination to an entirely new level---so I'll look when I'm done if you haven't found it by then.
